Fisherman/Gathering/Research

Fish Frequency
How often will you get nothing? When is the best time of day to fish? Does lvl affect the type of fish?

Questions often pondered while my line drifts in the current after one more fish. Rather than let these questions bother me, I'm starting the Fishing Research page. All Dofus fishers are invited to participate.

Principle is pretty simple: Go fishing. Record the following info:

Starting fishing professional level>> Type of rod used>>> General fishing location (Astrub Lake, Amakna Waterfront, etc.)>>> (Dofus) Starting time of day >>> Type of school tested on (I recommend fishing only one type of school while researching, ie: Small River Fish, Big Fishes (sea), etc.)>>> How many times you tried to catch a fish over>> Type and number of fish caught >>> Total failed casts (yes, we could math this from the other info but make it easy for the viewers)</li> Any special notes >>></li> Your Name (so we can thank you!)</li></ul>

This sounds harder than it is. You are fishing anyway, restrict yourself to one location, rod and (the hard one) type of school. Keep track of the number of times you tried and count up what you caught at the end.

If you are going to contribute, please cast your line at least 20 times. Helps with data accuracy. Example: If I try 4 times and get 1 ancestral trout, that's a 25% success rate for Ancestral Trout. Not quite realistic, see?

Over time and with a few participants we should be able to see which of these conditions affect fishing success. Once we see patterns emerging we'll go ahead and draw up some "Fish Frequency" charts. Right now we wouldn't know what to put in them!

Raw Data
Entry Form (DO NOT USE THE FIRST FORM, it's intended for contributors to copy/paste/fill out):

Entry # Fishing Level: ## Rod: {rod} Location: {location} Time of Day: HH:MM School: {school}

Notes: Fished by:

Entry 1 Fishing Level: 37 Rod: Cubic Fishing Rod Location: Amanka Lake Time of Day: 13:30 School: Small Fish (river)

Notes: Used cubic rod instead of Knitting needle, so as not to skew fish % to kittenfish, needs followup with knitting needle. Fished by: ADuryea

Entry 2 Fishing Level: 37 Rod: Knitting Needle Location: Sufokia Time of Day: 18:00 School: Small Fish (sea)

Notes: Used knitting needle instead of cubic fishing rod, so as not to skew fish % to breaded fish, needs followup with cubic fishing rod. Reached level 38 while in the middle of fishing. Personally was shocked by 100% fishing success rate following on Entry 1's 80% success rate.

Fished by: ADuryea

Entry 3

Fishing Level: 18-19

Rod: Standard Fishing Rod

Location: Madrestam Harbour

Time of Day: 23:25

School: Small Fishes (sea)

Notes: Ran into a Crab Devourer on cast 14. Reached level 19 on cast 63. Fought a Breaded Fish Devourer on cast 73. Fought another Breaded Fish Devourer on cast 96. All times that I fought a Devourer, I had cought a Grawn

Fished by: AtomicHype

Entry 4

Fishing Level: 1-5

Rod: {Short Fishing Rod}

Location: {Astrub Lake}

Time of Day: 3:38 DST-4:50 DST

School: {Small fishes}

Notes:

Gudgeon on casts: 3, 4, 5, 12, 16, 17, 19, 20, 23, 28, 34, 36, 39, 40, 45, 50, 53, 57, 61, 62, 65, 66, 69, 73, 74, 76, 77 (Devourer),78,79,80,90,95,97,99. Trout on casts: 11.22,24,27,29,31,60,81,83,89,92,93. Kittenfish on casts: 33,51, 67 (Devourer),72(Devourer),75,82. Had a kitty avatar following me around after I dropped him a kittenfish. =P The bobber seems to spin more when I catch something, I'll keep an eye on this in future tests. Fished by:Thetis

Entry 5 Fishing Level: 11 -> 12 Rod: Short Fishing Rod Location: Amakna Lake Time of Day: 18:06 -> 18:55 School: Small River Fish

Notes: Fought devourer 2 times. The rest is standart, added to complete the basic statistics, possible followup with same conditions (including Short Fishing Rod) and higher profession level (40+) would be good Fished by: Wrin

Entry 6 Fishing Level: 12 -> 13 Rod: Standard Fishing Rod Location: Amakna Lake Time of Day: 20:30 -> 21:25 School: Small River Fish

Notes: Encountered devourer only once.. The stats seem to be very similar (pracically the same) when comparing Small Rod and Standard Rod Fished by: Wrin

Entry 7 Fishing Level: 66 Rod: Love Staff Location: Amakna Bridge Time of Day: 01:00 -> 1:35 School: Big Fishes (sea)

Notes: I noticed you don't have to get a certain fish in order to get a devourer of the same type of fish. Fought sardine and Blue Ray devourer.

Fished by: Eath

Entry 8

Fishing Level: 37

Rod: Knitting Needle

Location: Amanka Lake

Time of Day: 13:30

School: Small Fish (river)

Notes: Following ADuryea's Entry 1, I used Knitting needle to determinate the added % of catching a kittenfish. Other conditions remain exactly the same (lev, location etc.). Fought devourer four times and, oddly enough, none of them was kittenfish devourer.. may mean that the type of rod has no influence on type of devourer appearing. Fished by: Wrin

Entry 9 Fishing Level: 37 Rod: Cubic Fishing Rod Location: Sufokia Time of Day: 18:00 School: Small Fish (sea)

Notes: Following ADuryea's Entry 2, I used Cubic Fishing Rod to determinate the added % of catching a breaded fish. Other conditions are the same (lev, location etc.). Reached lvl 38 during fishing. Fought devourer six times, 4 of them were Breaded fish. As ADuryea, I was quite surprised by 100% success rate.

Fished by: Wrin

Entry 10

Fishing Level: 20

Rod: Standard Fishing Rod

Location: Madrestam 12, -1

Time of Day: 09:29-10:00

School: Small Fish (sea)

Notes: No bread fish was odd. Monster was crab devourer, on attempt 12. Had Breaded fish monster just before starting

Fished by: Curi-Smash (Rushu)

Entry 11

Fishing Level: 30

Rod: Knitting needle

Location: Amakna river near Madrestam

Time of Day: 22:30

School: Small Fish (river)

Notes: Got a lot of protectors : gudgeon at 17,38,50, trout at 19, kittenfish at 29. Only 5 misses! Probably due to the use of the Knitting needle, getting kittenfish when it would normally fail.

Fished by: Nyuuuuu

Entry 12

Fishing Level: 20

Rod: Standard Rod (Lv. 10)

Location: Fisherman's Workshop near Madrestam Time of Day: 07:30 IST (India Standard Time) School: Small Fish and Fish (river)

Notes: Much more success than I usually get playing in EST. Will try a larger data set around the same time frame. Fished by: Goza

Entry 13 Fishing Level: 40 Rod: Knitting needle (Lv. 30) Location: Astrub central pond, I did both [1,-17] and [1,-18] 4 times in a row Time of Day: 18:00 Dofus Time (which no longer exists ? that's 19:00 CET)

School: Small fish (river)

Notes: 2 gudgeon protectors, 1 trout protector, 1 kittenfish protector, 1 gudgeon from Kiye (fished regularly; I also got one from a protector a big while ago - I'm an Enutrof). Anyway, I'm a happy fisherman; this looks like one of the best times to go fishing.

Fished by: Nyuuuuu

Entry 13

Fishing Level: 12

Rod: Standard Fishing Rod (Lv. 10)

Location: amaka (9,1)

Time of Day: 19:00 Dofus Time

School: Small fish (river) Fish (river)

Notes: never lost a fish till i got to the 5th one then i only lost 1 afterwards so idk about the 50%chance but hope this helps

Fished by: Brownyandpounder

Entry 14

Fishing Level: 35-36

Rod: Cubic Fishing Rod

Location: Madrestam Harbour

Time of Day: 18:30-19:40

School: Fish (Sea)

Notes: Fished on the bridge to Amakna Prison. Protectors fought: Kralove (4), Breaded Fish (3), Crab (2) and Sardines (1).

Fished by: Deathblow

Entry 15

Fishing Level: 1-3

Rod: Short Fishing Rod

Location: Kawaii River

Time of Day: 01:41

School: Small Fish (river)

Notes: Fished by: Emerila Oct. 15 2007, Rosal

Entry 16

Fishing Level: 1-3

Rod: Short Fishing Rod

Location: Madrestam

Time of Day: 01:41

School: Small Fish (sea)

Notes: Fished by: Emerila Oct. 15 2007, Rosal

Entry 17

Fishing Level: 4

Rod: Short Fishing Rod

Location: Asse Coast

Time of Day: 02:28

School: Small Fish (sea)

Notes: Fished by: Emerila Oct. 15 2007, Rosal

Entry 18

Fishing Level: 5

Rod: Short Fishing Rod

Location: Madrestan

Time of Day: 02:55

School: Small Fish (sea)

Notes: Fished by: Emerila Oct. 15 2007, Rosal

Entry 19

Fishing Level: 4

Rod: Apprentice Fisherman's Rod Location: Sufokia Time of Day: 05:52 School: Small Fish (sea)

Notes: Fished by: Jolene Oct. 15 2007, Shika

Entry 20 Fishing Level: 45-46 Rod: Big Fishing Rod Location: Amakna Lake Time of Day: 13:35-14:35 (Dofus Time) School: Big Fishes River

Notes: Notice that I specify the time that I fish for an hour. During this time, I have fought 4 devourers. However, I did lose a couple of bags to the guild perceptors, so if you are feeling greedy with your fish supplies, I would suggest you avoid fishing areas that are occupied with perceptors. I also emptied out my inventory of fish and gutted fish. All that I had left was edible fish. It looks like my chance of catching fish had gone up at least 30% if you take all of the fish and gutted fish out of your inventory. Put them in the bank or something. I don't know about edible fish. I might try that next time I do research.

Fished by: LottaBootes

Entry 21

Fishing Level: 04

Rod: Apprentice Fisherman's Rod Location: Incarnam Time of Day: 17:57-18:07 School: {school}Small Fish (river)

Notes: where i fished was not crowded at all usualy just me and 2 other guys. Fished by:Luckykitty

Entry 22 Fishing Level: 01-03 Rod: Short Fishing Rod Location: Madrestam Harbour Time of Day: 12:30-13:00 School: Small Fish (sea)

Notes: no other fishers... just me and my rod... Fished by: Imhozeth

Entry 23 Fishing Level: 20 Rod: Standard Fishing Rod Location: Madrestam Harbour 13, 1 /7,-6 Time of Day: 20:15 / 21:20 School: Small Fish (sea) Fish (sea) Fish (river)??

Notes: 10th try Gudgeon devourer, 33th grawn devourer, 37 and 80th a breaded devourer, 38 an crab devourer, and ad 53 a sardine devourer. I havend seen other fishers. Fished by: Turkies-capeshatsbag (rosal)

Entry 24 Fishing Level: 1-3 (leveled up during session) Rod: Apprentice Fisherman’s Rod Location: Incarnam Lake Time of Day: 08:30 - 09:00 School: Small Fish/ River

Notes: My first attempt at fishing. I don't know if the level difference will affect the results...

Fished by: Altru (Rosal)

Entry 25

Fishing Level: 6-11 [leveled during session]

Rod: [Apprentice Fisherman's Rod] Location: [Incarnam Lake] Time of Day: 23:00 - 01:00 School: Small Fish

Notes: Had a good day on gudgeon but i really need to see if i fish for gudgeon down at astrub if i could get more in that amount of time. Fished by: FishMe

Entry 26 Fishing Level:14 ## Rod: Fishing Rod For Dinks Location: 15, 25 Time of Day: 03:03-04:01 School: {school}

Notes: Seems to be a fast place to lvl for ppl from 1-20 since fish are easy to catch and no ones usually there

Note: idk how u failed 49 times when its 100% chance to catch there

Entry 27 Fishing Level: 30 Rod: Apprentice Fisherman's Rod Location: Incarnam (Lake) Time of Day: 12:19 to 13:15 Rosal time (1 Descendre) School: Small fish (river)

Notes:6 Devourers, on 6, 11, 28, 34, 64 and 65. 3 were gudgeon, 2 were kittenfish and 1 was a trout. Generally not related to the fish I got, but I always got a fish at the same time. I thought there were 7, but I can't find it in my record... According to the Fisherman's Soul, date or time of year may also make a difference... The Ancestral Trout came up faster than any other fish I've ever noticed. Fished by:AdventuresOfASquirrel

Entry 28 Fishing Level: 30 Rod: Short Fishing Rod Location: Incarnam (Lake) Time of Day: 12:40 to 13:41 Rosal time (2 Descendre) School: Small fish (river)

Notes:Tried to keep variable as similar as possible to the previous day, Entry 27. Oh, and I had no fish at all in my inventory before I started each test. 7 Devourers, on 14, 24, 47, 62, 77, 91 and 93. 2 gudgeon, 3 trout, 2 kittenfish, generally bearing no relation to what I caught at the same time, but always at a time when I got a fish. Fished by:AdventuresOfASquirrel

Entry 29 Fishing Level: 30 Rod: Standard Fishing Rod Location: Incarnam (Lake) Time of Day: 12:14 to 13:15 Rosal time (3 Descendre) School: Small fish (river)

Notes:Again, no fish in my inventory. Similar time and circumstances to both previous days. 7 Devourers, at 26, 36, 37, 50, 65, 81 and 96. More than half the time they matched up with what I caught. 4 gudgeon, 2 trout and a kittenfish. Fished by:AdventuresOfASquirrel

Entry 30 Fishing Level: 30 Rod: Knitting Needle Location: Incarnam (Lake) Time of Day: 12:04 to 13:03 (4 Descendre) School: Small fish (river)

Notes:Continued trying to keep variable similar to previous days. Do I even need to say this? 8 Devourers, 3, 15, 22, 40, 45, 61, 71 and 100. Probably an aberration. 6/8 matched up with the fish I caught at the same time. 2 gudgeon, 4 trout, 2 kittenfish. I dropped an Igniflam Sword from one of the trouts. Fished by:AdventuresOfASquirrel

Entry 31 Fishing Level: 12-13 Rod: Standard Fishing Rod Location: Amakna (The Mushd's Corner) at 13, 8 Time of Day: from 03:30 to 04:22 School: Small Fish (sea)

Notes: I leveled up after I caught the first fish. Fished by: Aomidori

Entry 32 Fishing Level: 13 Rod: Standard Fishing Rod Location: Amakna (Madrestam Harbour) at 13, 2 Time of Day: from 04:58 to 05:27 School: Small Fish (river)

Notes: Fished by: Aomidori

Entry 33 Fishing Level: 1 -&gt; 4 Rod: Short Fishing Rod Location: Amaka (Kawaii River) Time of Day: 03:44-04:45 School: Small Fish (river) Notes: Fished by: Lord-Leti

Entry 34 Fishing Level: 51-52 Rod: Magic Snapper Fishing Rod Location: Madrestam Harbour Time of Day: 18:21 to 18:41 School: Big Sea Fish

Notes: I encountered 1 Sardine Devourer and 1 Skate Devourer. Fished by: Aomidori

Entry 35 Fishing Level: 18 Rod: Standard Fishing Rod Location: Kawaii River Time of Day: 17:00 to 18:00 School: River Fish

Notes: I met no Devourers as I'm not yet level 20 :( Fished by: KillerSpoon (talk) 16:18, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

'Entry 36 Fishing Level: 17-1 Rod: Apprentice Fisherman's Ro Location: Incarnam (Lake) 5/ Time of Day: 05:56 - 6:51 (PST)

School: Small fish(river)

Notes:' I caught my last fish when I leveled to 18.

Fished by: Oceangreen on October 8, 2011

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em;">Entry # 37 Fishing Level: 1-5 Rod: Short Fishing Rod Location: Astrub Lake Time of Day: 20:00-21:00 School: Small Fish(River)

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Notes: I will be posting entries every 100 casts.(up to lvl 100) Using different rods and in different areas. I leveled on my 10th, 29th, 52nd, and finally 85th cast. Fished by: Ihealgrindill

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em;">Entry # 38 Fishing Level: 5-7 Rod: Short Fishing Rod Location: Madrestam Harbor Time of Day: 21:00-22:00 School: Small Seafish

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Notes: lots of mobs on the harbor edges, so if you fish here and are a low level, be careful. I lvled on my 20th and 63rd cast. Fished by:Ihealgrindill

Various notes
Why not posting our experiences during fishing while not exactly following research parameters :) Post only observations that you have tested beforehand, not rumours. Anything that would help to complete the charts or creating a complex scheme are welcome!

6.1.637; 12:00 - 14:00 DUT - Noticed differences between Madestram Harbor and Sufokia fishing progresses. I used the same rod (Cubic Fishing Rod) and I went through lvl 30 to 33 fisherman. The time for NOT catching a fish in Madestram was +- 17 seconds, while in Sufokia it was +- 25 seconds. Also, the success rate seemed to be 90%+ in Madestram while in Sufokia a bit lower. Tried on Small Fishes and Fishes. I also fought unusual number of devourers - 14 on approx two hundred fishes -- Wrin 14:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Goza - Is there evidence to suggest that different areas might have different key times (river vs. sea or Madrestam vs. Sufokia), rather than there being global key times? Oi, what a profession. 15:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks to me like it could be just some random effect; the differences between 2 fishing sessions are generally quite big, except maybe the protector frequency. - Nyuuuuu

I am level 16 fisherman. Have used Apprentice Fisherman's Rod (from Incarnam) - have encountered *0* Devourers. Due to rod? Due to my low fisherman level up til now?
 * Probably due to your low level. It was the same for me, I'm getting tons now (1 protector every 12 to 15 fishes). Also, get the level 10 rod, it can fish a bit further as the incarnam one. - Nyuuuuu

'''Hey, Orcus here. I have a low level pandawa fisherman Lvl&lt;10, and Ive noticed that while using an Incarnam Fishermans Rod, out of about 100 or so fish, I have NEVER encountered a Devourer. 2nd item of business, While using the Incarnam Rod, I have caught about (this means an estimate) 150 Gudgeon, 40 trout, and 10 kittenfish, while fishing equally in Incarnam, and Astrub. Could it be that the need for gudgeon in the Incarnam quests causes the Incarnam rod to yield higher amounts of gudgeon? (EDIT) after a quick look, I noticed that the description for the incarnam rod is as follows ". . .This rod is perfect to fish gudgeons." So... I was right in my deduction that there was some reason the Inc. Rod was catching more gudgeon.'''
 * Orcus, I think this is because small fish (river) schools of fish tend to be more gudgeon. I got the lvl 10 rod once i achieved that level and am fishing in incarnum, and still get more gudgeon than both trout and kittenfish combined.

'''Hello, I am a Level 42 fisherman and I was fishing at the Lake in Amakna with the knitting needle at about 16:00. I just wanted to note that that seems to be a very good time to be fishing there because I encountered an unusual amount of devourers (Starting about 10 Minutes from 16:00 until five past i fished about 20 fish and encountered 8! devourers, three of which in a row). This seems to be contrary to the best time to catch seafish, because I got most of my devourers there (at Port of Madestram) in the times between 18:00 and 20:00.''' The time given is forum time.

Additional note: Before asking questions about devourers, I'll tell you this: For any professions, the protectors ONLY appear from level 20 onwards.

Thats not true, i fought a devourer at lvl 6 fisherman, so it apears at any lvl
 * Dont forget to sign your comments. Was that recently? because i remember this protection was put after a couple of months so its makes it easier for low levels that are starting a profession (mostly ircanram)--Cizagna (Talk) 19:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Another note: You can fail to catch the fish and still get a protector for it. it happened twice for me, once for kralove, once for breaded fish. Note again: you don't even need to fish the right school for the protector, as i got a kittenfish devourer when fishing at sea.Puplite 22:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Weird note : while i was fishing i cauht a gudgeon at the small fish (see) i didnt go anywhere for fishing cause the see i always free and noone else fishing there...Hei-Shengsun lvl 5 fisherman

Note for shengsun "sea" is spelt "sea" not "see" :P hehe anyway I to find less people fish at "sea" compared to other places such as astrub Xxrenegade-Nz

Extra add on to this page i found that using the first rod you get from starting fisherman profession i caught more gudgeon then using the standard fishing rod. Also all professions can only fight protectors at lvl 20 so if anyone does manage to fight before lvl 20 it would be a glitch and might not happen again until lvl 20.

Protectors: they seem to be more common around 17:00 - 18:00 Dofus time in Madrestam and the sea to the south of it. I've frequently had up to 50% rates at this time of day. sQuonk (talk) 22:35, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

I'm now 23 fisherman, but on lvl 1 i just fished up a kiye gudeon!!!

Is any one still activly working on the fishing study? 11/9/09